IN CONVERSATION WITH FATIMA NJAI & JEROME SYDENHAM
Interview by Vivien Schleich
Zagreb is cherry red for her
As cherry red as the cherries she tasted on her first visit to the city, as cherry red as her hair is. Red is alarming, the color of love and life, red is vibrating. Red is something that can be found in each of us. Dominated by symbolism, or vice versa. A symbolism that can also be found in Eartheater as well. She lives the methaphoric and the fusion of contrasts, the creation of a new, different reality, in which the limits of language do not play a role, boundaries blur or are idiosyncratic defined.
The Telekom Electronic Beats Festival took place in Zagreb this year, attracting a finely curated selection of artistic greats to the capital of Croatia. Since 2000, they have been pursuing the goal of presenting a tangible symbiosis of the music, art, design and fashion scene as an Europe-wide initiative, opening a stage to actual pop culture. The headliners of this year’s festival included Mura Masa, Eartheater, Trokutand Georgia and opened a fusion of variation.
I think it’s as we move forward into the future, things were moving into the unknown. So all of our lives are experiments as we move. Or at least I hope they are. I feel like this is where innovation and growth happens, when we’re playing. As a child is experimenting when it only exists to learn. Learning is all aspects of it. It’s about exploring. Exploration.
Well, I feel like one of my greatest strengths is that I am not afraid of failure. I have, quote unquote, failed or fell on my face or embarrassed myself many times. But this is such an important aspect of exploration. You cannot be afraid of it. And I think that I see it holding back a lot of artists. Because they want to be perfect all the time or quote unquote what is perfection. I think the power is in the humility of possibly being a fool, but it always pays off eventually. But we use the references and we use the culture. We use these codes and messages that have been gifted to us in the past by Geniuses like, you know, Alexander McQueen or whoever. So if you’re referencing something it’s not the best artists I think do a combination of exploration, experimenting, but also harkening back. At the same time. It’s a spiral, the fusion. So if you move forward like this, you move back, but you’re spiraling to project forward again.
I mean, the Internet, I think is extremely important to like what I do. And but yeah, I mean, it absolutely does. Technology for sure. But also, like I said, I find a lot of power and not being so too obsessed with what it is. Like all the advancements in technology, one has to be aware of them for sure, but I realize as more people get more and more and more and more and more obsessed with technology, they’re forgetting what it really is to play an instrument. Just the purity of plucking a string with the muscles of your body and the the micro intelligence in you and your muscle in our bodies is so important to remember. You have to stay grounded, one toe on the earth, at least one little toe.
I think I would like people to feel relief, sexuality and power.
Well, that’s the essence of Evolution. That’s the life force of nature.
It has to be holistic for the message to really permeate. It needs to be holistic. It needs to be a complete vision. Which is the visuals, the videos, the clothes, the makeup, the words that are used, etc. Every aspect of the work needs to be touched.
It is romantic, I think. Romance, finding that’s one of the greatest tools that I think any of us can try to remember. Yes. To be romantic to whatever situation, how difficult, how painful. If you just see the romance in it and it’s the window to moving forward, is the window to conquering whatever aspects are holding us. And the romanticism and listening. Listening, paying attention and what that takes to be romantic is to listen. What it takes is to be paying attention.
Thank you. You know, it’s all a learning. But I remember very clearly having to kill aspects that weren’t serving that now, killing different voices in our ears that are holding us back, like killing obsolete emotions, killing things like jealousy or comparison. These things cause static in our minds and in our vision. I want to clear the vision. Clear, all the static away. But it takes time. It’s difficult. I’ve had to battle myself and I had to kill parts of myself, cut it off, you know.
Yeah, exactly. See you got the message.
Well, words are something that are of the past. I said, there are tools to move forward. This is why we changed. This is why we come up with new terms. We come up with words. It’s so important as an artist to create new poetry. Poetry is abstraction of language. Rules insinuate a right and a wrong. My job is to challenge why things are wrong or why things are right. To keep sharpening those. Like, what is it? What was language holding us back from? What is the left brain holding us back from? The left brain is our logical, mathematical side. Our right brain is the ethereal side. So it’s about connecting these hemispheres, you know.
Yeah, the ugly is when, like, archetypal aspects of beauty can really hold us back. I mean, when you have an intimate relationship with someone, you’re ready to go into the ugly side. Yeah, and that’s real romance. That’s what I have to reflect on. There’s noise and there’s pain and there’s rawness and there’s, you know, you’re eating the asshole. Like, you know, it’s like you’re going there.
New images, new symbols, new words, even new words.
That’s why suppressed people have always come up with their own lexicon. That’s why the poor and disparaged and suppressed people have always come up with their own slang. That’s the beauty, because it’s a weapon. You protect yourself by creating your own language.
I love my people. And so to see, you know, I was working for so long on the underground. Unknown and I didn’t start with aspirations of being known the way that I am. Like this is a huge gift. Is just such a great reward, you know? But it’s really not about me. It’s really about them. It’s more about I’m just a little spider on my house, on the farm that I grew up on, we had these, like, metal spires on top of the buildings for when the lightning hits to grab the lightning so it doesn’t actually hit the building and cause a fire. And lightning rods, they’re called. I’m a lightning rod. A lightning rod to connect the energy and then channel it. And then I have it connected to my instruments. Or my voice or mind.
I think, you know, people, I feel like I just experienced people’s fear on what I do. I see people being scared because especially powerful people, people who think they know and they’re confused by it. And that’s very interesting. Well, I mean, what’s important is to observe how people react, but not to absorb their reaction. Like, it’s a nuance. It’s such a little dance, you know? It’s like, I love the criticism that I got because it actually shows me their issue. It shows me their problem. I challenge them and then they’re scared. I learn from that.
I think they’re scared of the complexity that I’m posing, because I’m putting so much forward. A lot of what I do is very complex. So you can’t sum it up in one article If you’ve only listened to it three times. You have to listen to it over years and you have to maybe speak to yourself. And I think that so, when I see an article that is trying to control what I’ve done, in comparison to old references, it’s already moot. Already a limitation of what is actually being used. I think that writers sometimes act like they have the authority over something because also it’s very scary to completely succumb to something. And in the past. Now I think people are giving it up. But in the past, like when you’re a baby artist, if you really do have power, people are still scared to be like, well, is she going to fall off? Is she going to suddenly make a fool of herself? And then if they support it too heavily, then the egg is on their face. Now, I feel like I’m like, I’m also older now and I’ve been doing this for a long time, so it’s different who I have respect for. But I remember being a baby artist – much of my ethos has stayed the same. I remember being positioned as a weirdo, and I’ve always felt disrespected by that because I’m not just a weirdo. I’m shedding light onto things that have been untouched yet.
I don’t really know. I think that I definitely have a few more years of traveling a lot. I do see that slowing down maybe in the next five years and I will maybe have my own studio and be taking care of other baby artists. baby artists. I have my record label Chemical X developing. I see a transition from it being me grinding as a solo artist to opening it up like a mom, you know, to my babies.
Interview by Vivien Schleich
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