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“I HAD WINGS THE WHOLE TIME.“ – IN CONVERSATION WITH WISP

Wisp’s rise happened fast. After her song “Your Face” went viral on TikTok, the San Francisco-born artist quickly built an international audience, with her music even finding its way into videos by Rick Owens.

Blending shoegaze, alternative and dream pop, Wisp released her debut album last year, establishing a sound that feels both intimate and expansive. But she has no interest in staying within one genre. For her upcoming album, she is exploring jazz drums, emo chords and folk instrumentation, while bringing strings, brass and wind instruments into the mix.

Visuals have become an equally important part of her world. Alongside new music, Wisp is working on live visuals and music video concepts, building an aesthetic universe around her songs.

In conversation with Numéro Berlin, Wisp talks about the complex relationship between creativity and TikTok, leaving university to pursue music, finding inspiration in Los Angeles and the pressure of following up on a viral breakthrough. She also shares what’s next and why, for her, taking time to experiment is more important than repeating what already works.

Numéro Berlin: A big part of your breakthrough happened on TikTok and people like Rick Owens have used your songs for their videos. How much time do you spend on TikTok? How do you view this new era of artists reaching huge fame „over night“ by going viral on TikTok?

Wisp:

My relationship with TikTok is a complex one. To preface, I think the app is incredible in so many ways and serves as a great tool for artists to promote themselves and their work. My personal experience with TikTok is ever-changing and it was definitely a challenge for me to find enjoyment in creativity and posting on the app as someone who gained a majority of their platform from said app. A lot of times, I felt obliged to post a specific amount, a certain way, and it sucked all the fun out of it. But sometimes we need to put our disdain aside and learn to adapt when it’s worth it. TikTok can do a lot for anyone who has passion and a voice that wants to speak. I’m grateful I live in an era of art where discovering talented art is more accessible, so why wouldn’t I throw myself in the mix? I learned to make the app enjoyable by showing more of my personality in videos and posting with less care. No more following trends if I don’t feel like it and treating the app like my own little blog.

NB: Who would be your dream collab?

W:

Aphex Twin, Beach House, Hans Zimmer, Have a Nice Life. Artists who are able to convey visceral, story-like songs with instrumentation alone inspire me so much and I’d love to just tell them how I feel, what world I want Wisp to live in, and then for it to be brought to life. I feel like I rely on my lyrics to tell a story a lot of times, but would love to let the music carry it forward more. Beach House and Have a Nice Life are a couple artists I like to listen to when I need inspiration for my music.

NB: You talked about not wanting to limit yourself to one specific genre. Do you already have ideas/plans for other genres that you want to explore or is it more something happening in the process?

W: I think it’s a style that’ll naturally develop as I’m writing this next album. All I know for now is that I want to incorporate different instruments(strings, brass, wind), I want the lyrics to follow a storytelling flow, and I want to take inspiration from jazz drums, emo chords, and folk instrumentation.

NB: Whats the vision for 2026? Can we expect an album? Singles? Or laying low after your album release last year?

W:

I’m working on an album but I am not sure when it is set to release yet! I’m definitely going to take precious time with this next one and hone in on my songwriting skills to make it something I’ll be really proud of- which would mean it needs to be a bigger step from my debut album through stepping out of my comfort zone and exploring my potential to greater heights. But that’s not to say there won’t be any new music for the rest of 2026! I’d love to put out a lot more new things this year, especially for my upcoming shows. I’ve also been working on new live visuals and music video concepts. World-building and having strong imagery is really important and something I’ve been having so much fun brainstorming.

NB: You initially started studying computer science. Just a safe bet or are you actually passionate about computer science?

W:

I like to think I enjoyed it and had somewhat of a passion for computer science but I don’t think my heart was ever really in it. I chose it because I grew up wanting to be in the STEM field, thought it would make money, and I was really into video games at the time. I was also super salty in college and hated on art majors out of envy. It was really naive of me but I thought by choosing something that seemed like it guaranteed financial success would be the most fulfilling option and one I wouldn’t regret. It wasn’t untilI started making my own music, for real this time and not just writing songs in my bedroom forever, that I felt assured in myself and my future.

NB: At what point in your career did you know that music will be your main job? When did you deregister from uni and are you sometimes thinking about the Natalie in a parallel universe who is still studying?

W:

It wasn’t until a while after “Your face” blew up online and the singles that followed after. I had met my manager about four months after the ball started rolling, then signed to my label, started filming my first ever music video and visualizer, then played my first show – all within the same year. Even after all of this I was still skeptical of the longevity music would provide me as a career. I was a barista during this time and was still enrolled in my classes, just transferring to all online so I could travel to LA to do studio sessions. I also struggled with self-confidence and found myself doubting my abilities as a song writer and performer. All of this made it hard for me to believe I could take the jump even though I had wings the whole time. It wasn’t until I had played my first show and seen the impact of my music right in front of my eyes that I realized how special and rare creating community like that was. I was growing to be more comfortable in my identity as Wisp and knew this wouldn’t be an opportunity I should ever pass up. It’s dropped out of uni my second semester of my sophomore year and it was the best decision I could have made for myself. I moved to LA to focus on music and went on tour for the first time! It was the most pivotal year of my entire life and now I get to live out the rest of my life just like this.

NB: Do you listen to similar music like your own in your private life? Or who is on your playlist?

W:

It changes all the time! I think around the time I started Wisp I was listening to a lot of music that sounds similar to mine now, which is the reason why Wisp sounds the way it does. But the more people I meet and the more festivals and concerts I go to, I find inspiration in new artists that become new inspirations to my music. Most of the stuff I like and let influence Wisp though are bands I grew up listening to. Recently I’ve been listening to Movements, Alice Phoebe Lou, Fiona Apple, Citizen, Forma Norte, and Venturing.

NB: Where are you deriving your inspiration from? / Which place revives your energy and gives you new inspiration?

W:

To be honest moving to LA was such a drastic change for me. I moved away from my parents and started living alone which I had never done. I had no friends and no way of getting around. My social life was basically nonexsistent and so I fixated on writing music as much as I could, sometimes 7 days out of the week being spent at the studio. LA became a suffocating and uninspiring place to work in. I was put in the same windowless, stuffy studios- expected to write another hit (this pressure and expectation no one except myself had put on me). Getting away from LA, whether that meant going back home to San Francisco or even just writing in a different part of LA away from the noise was how I found motivation to write better music on the first album. But so much has changed since then. LA has been the biggest creative hub and community that has watered me to flourish as an artist. It is no longer draining but enriching. I have a new group of friends and a loving boyfriend, my bond with my team and my manager has strengthened, I have been focusing more on my mental health and allowing myself to take breaks without feeling guilty. It was never the city that suffocated me but myself. The sun is always out and I just had to open my eyes.

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